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this is said to have helped bill clinton. in 1980 republican primary george bush had momentum against ronald reagan until the debate. there was a moment where reagan looked strong. >> john: that moment helped change the campaign. >> read my lips. [ applause ] >> incidents between a hockey mom and pit bull, lip stick. >> others is seize ago moment you didn't expect to happen. >> there you go again. >> most moments so far this election has been poorly fliazed comments. >> if you got a business, you didn't build that. somebody else made that happen. >> i like being able to fire people and put services to people. >> they call them gaffes but the media don't know. when ed uskie lost the '72 primary, everyone said candidates can't cry because that is weak, but then in 2008, hillary clinton cried. >> i have so many opportunities in this country. >> she begin to tear up. her voice cracked. she showed being human. [ applause ] >> this is very personal for me. >> people perceive that as weakness. i think they will. >> it makes her look
this is said to have helped bill clinton. in 1980 republican primary george bush had momentum against ronald reagan until the debate. there was a moment where reagan looked strong. >> john: that moment helped change the campaign. >> read my lips. [ applause ] >> incidents between a hockey mom and pit bull, lip stick. >> others is seize ago moment you didn't expect to happen. >> there you go again. >> most moments so far this election has been poorly fliazed...
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this is said to have helped bill clinton. bill clinton. in the 1980 republican primary george bush had moment against ronald reagan, until in the debate in new hampshire, there was a moment where reagan looked strong. >> i am paying for this microphone. >> that moment helped change the campaign. >> some o some of them you can . >> read my lips. no new taxes. >> the difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull, lipstick. >> other ones, you got to depend on your candidate seizing a moment you didn't expect to happen. >> there you go again. >> most moments so far this election have been poorly phrased comments. >> if you've got a business, you didn't build that. somebody else made that happen. >> i like being able to fire people that provide services to me. >> they'll put y'all back in chains. >> the media call those gaffes, but often the media don't know. when ed musky lost the '072 primary because he looked like he teared up defending his wife, everyone said candidates can't career, because that's week, but then in 2008 hillary clinton cr
this is said to have helped bill clinton. bill clinton. in the 1980 republican primary george bush had moment against ronald reagan, until in the debate in new hampshire, there was a moment where reagan looked strong. >> i am paying for this microphone. >> that moment helped change the campaign. >> some o some of them you can . >> read my lips. no new taxes. >> the difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull, lipstick. >> other ones, you got to depend on...
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but for the state department's secretary, hillary clinton, to sabsaying it was based on the intelligence community defies credibility. her own department was in real time communication at the consulate in benghazi when the attack was underway. the next day, obviously talking to them. forget what the intelligence community was saying, how about what the state department itself was saying? irtion you know, this is the other thing, is that -- the omission, what is not there. and had there know been a protest, i suspect at a u.s. embassy or consulate before this -- before the explosion was at 9:40 p.m., let's say flfs a protest at 7:00 or 5:00 our 4:00 that, information i assume would have been relayed to headquarte. >> absolutely, absolutely. >> greta: there was no information of a protest, nothing? >> quite the contrary, business was going on as normal am they recognized that there was some security concern because ambassador stevens did not leave the compound that day. he was -- >> greta: it was 9/11. >> he was meeting other people, the last visitor was the turkish ambassador toward the e
but for the state department's secretary, hillary clinton, to sabsaying it was based on the intelligence community defies credibility. her own department was in real time communication at the consulate in benghazi when the attack was underway. the next day, obviously talking to them. forget what the intelligence community was saying, how about what the state department itself was saying? irtion you know, this is the other thing, is that -- the omission, what is not there. and had there know...
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the benghazi cover-up has caused a rift between barack obama and the clintons. here we go. ed klein has broken the story. the author of the best selling book "the amateur" will join us next. up next, we need spies for this one, too. defense secretary leon panetta says america will be attacked. a cyber pearl harbor right out of the movie, derailing passenger trains and contaminating the water supply and shutting down the character. they want legislation and i'll tell you, when liberals want legislation, business beware, but we will cover the cyber threat on kudlow. a ash management system and the world's only tridion safety cell which can withstand over three and a half tons. small in size. big on safety. which can withstand over three and a half tons. when you take a closer look... ...at the best schools in the world... ...you see they all have something very interesting in common. they have teachers... ...with a deeper knowledge of their subjects. as a result, their students achieve at a higher level. let's develop more stars in education. let's invest in our teachers... .
the benghazi cover-up has caused a rift between barack obama and the clintons. here we go. ed klein has broken the story. the author of the best selling book "the amateur" will join us next. up next, we need spies for this one, too. defense secretary leon panetta says america will be attacked. a cyber pearl harbor right out of the movie, derailing passenger trains and contaminating the water supply and shutting down the character. they want legislation and i'll tell you, when liberals...
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. >> does that mean there's a fisher here between secretary of state clinton's state department and their narrative and the administration and the political campaign's narrative which wants to say it was the intelligence community or we didn't get the right story? >> well, patrick kennedy, the other state official who testified, said that he had gotten the same briefing and that he said the same thing they were saying. but the night before this hearing, state win out there and put out a very different story an the administration had pedaled in the first week. >> right. but the benghazi story is a piece of the administration's larger strategy, which is so long as we have an election on, the rest of the world may as well not exist. iran doesn't exist, syria doesn't exist, the syria rebuffs from russia don't exist and a terrorist attack in benghazi sure as heck doesn't exist until it becomes a problem for us. >> where is secretary of state clinton in this? she's out of the picture. >> look for the next job or keeping a low profile. they put out susan rice, who is a leading candidate for that
. >> does that mean there's a fisher here between secretary of state clinton's state department and their narrative and the administration and the political campaign's narrative which wants to say it was the intelligence community or we didn't get the right story? >> well, patrick kennedy, the other state official who testified, said that he had gotten the same briefing and that he said the same thing they were saying. but the night before this hearing, state win out there and put...
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where is bill clinton, how is bill clinton most effective? >> i think we've already seen some very, very effective operations with bill clinton. and of course that begins with the convention where you can see the numbers moving as bill clinton spoke. you've seen him going into target states, working with candidates who in turn will turn out the vote that will make a difference for president obama. and he is also and not so incidentally in a year in which democrats are facing this flood of post-citizen united super pac money, bill clinton has done fund-raising with the president, he's been doing fund-raising alone. he's been a real partner every step of the way. >> ann lewis, good to have you. thank you so much. >> my pleasure. >>> today's tweet of the day comes from chelsea clinton. she writes happy 37th anniversary to my mom and dad. and put up a picture of them at their wedding. there it is. research suggests ch plays a key role throughout our lives. one a day women's 50+ is a complete multivitamin designed for women's health concerns as we
where is bill clinton, how is bill clinton most effective? >> i think we've already seen some very, very effective operations with bill clinton. and of course that begins with the convention where you can see the numbers moving as bill clinton spoke. you've seen him going into target states, working with candidates who in turn will turn out the vote that will make a difference for president obama. and he is also and not so incidentally in a year in which democrats are facing this flood of...
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querulous hillary clinton? she is responsible for our embassy in diplomats. did she say, another area and pedaling on sunday shows? is the wrd began? there was a lot here that remains beneath the surface. this is a hole in their world view, policy, disastrous failure, and i hope we can follow-up on it. lou: we have to keep, if you will, the instances distinct. we are talking about our new horrible foreign policy disaster on one level geopolitically, an immense hun tragedy and the assassination of our ambassador in three other americans. and then we are talking about an absolute wall that has been put up around this of restoration refusing to let us understand what happened and why and refusing absolutely to acknowledge that there are serious challenges to the idea that this foreign-policy is, in fact, a workable policy album. >> and that may be the explanation for the post tragedy spanned by the administration, that their ideology which blinded them to the threat and the first place, which either caused gap in intelligence or a refusal to ask for the inte
querulous hillary clinton? she is responsible for our embassy in diplomats. did she say, another area and pedaling on sunday shows? is the wrd began? there was a lot here that remains beneath the surface. this is a hole in their world view, policy, disastrous failure, and i hope we can follow-up on it. lou: we have to keep, if you will, the instances distinct. we are talking about our new horrible foreign policy disaster on one level geopolitically, an immense hun tragedy and the assassination...
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if she spun this tale of fantasy to fill hillary clinton's shoes? >> well, it as pattern of this administration and we saw it with fast and furious that you often times put the least knowledgeable person in a position to testify before congress or to speak. that way you have plausible deniability when you are wrong. i would like to have susan rice because i want to ask her directly under oath you said you got this information from the intelligence community. who told you? who -- i want names. i don't want theories and ideas. who specifically told you that this was a video. and i would like to ask secretary clinton you said it was a video. who told you? there is nothing like the power of putting somebody under oath. >> judge jeanine: congressman, i totally agree with you and hopefully this committee will continue the important work it is doing. the american people are relying on the information and the truth. congressman gowdyle thanks for being with us this evening. >> thank you, ma'am. >> judge jeanine: coming up, president obama promised a strong
if she spun this tale of fantasy to fill hillary clinton's shoes? >> well, it as pattern of this administration and we saw it with fast and furious that you often times put the least knowledgeable person in a position to testify before congress or to speak. that way you have plausible deniability when you are wrong. i would like to have susan rice because i want to ask her directly under oath you said you got this information from the intelligence community. who told you? who -- i want...
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hopefully hillary clinton will not be. i think the american people want to know why they were misled and that's the over ques. >> where were they misled? >> it is presidential politics trying to make the president look better. but look at his policy. they don't want to use the word terrorism and stripped all of the words of terrorism and jihad out of the lexicon in the national counter terrorism and pentagon and is this a doning tread ertrend with the administration. >> it was. and i got to leave it there. >> it was doubly stupid. congressman thank you. thank you, ab. and just back from lib libya next. >> i think my god is that my sons? i don't know if he was shot. i don't know. they haven't told me anything. they are still studying it. and the things they are telling me are outright lies. >> i have no idea why it was spun that way. probably it was september 11th and no one wants to admit what happened on that day. >> grieving family members rresent the most painful aspect of benghazi-gate. and loss of family member in lib
hopefully hillary clinton will not be. i think the american people want to know why they were misled and that's the over ques. >> where were they misled? >> it is presidential politics trying to make the president look better. but look at his policy. they don't want to use the word terrorism and stripped all of the words of terrorism and jihad out of the lexicon in the national counter terrorism and pentagon and is this a doning tread ertrend with the administration. >> it...
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and like we were saying backstage, if it wasn't for the 22nd amendment is it that bill clinton would be president again because he obviously knows what he's talking about and people feel confident with him. but i do believe in barack obama. i do believe his message. i haven't lost faith in him. and i think that, you know -- it's not an easy thing to do. nobody knows what the hell they're getting into when they're running for president. you don't know what job you're getting into hosting a show like this. we're not having a huge impact. i mean, you are, i guess. >> you have a huge impact. >> i have a huge impact with young girls, young women. that's my demographic. >> and young men. >> older men especially. oerl men like me. you can vouch for that. >> oh, you enjoyed that one, didn't you? >> yes, i did! >> kelsey grammer was on the show the other day and he bailed -- >> oh, my gosh, i'm dying to know what happened. >> i'll tell you what happened. he was out there and i was given a set of questions and i researched it he was quite happy to talk about his ex-wife camille. then he was in
and like we were saying backstage, if it wasn't for the 22nd amendment is it that bill clinton would be president again because he obviously knows what he's talking about and people feel confident with him. but i do believe in barack obama. i do believe his message. i haven't lost faith in him. and i think that, you know -- it's not an easy thing to do. nobody knows what the hell they're getting into when they're running for president. you don't know what job you're getting into hosting a show...
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i think hillary clinton wanted to do just the opposite. she turned security over to the leftists and there are plenty with the state department. and as a result, you got the othertreme -- paulghou'tibhee. take two -- if do you take two security teams out, you got to explain it. >> and i think i'm explaining it, you can never excuse it. elood of the asa a r e aic i o ll con >>l: othti an explanation. absolutely owe it is and so does president obama and i think this could turn the election. got to run. thanks very much. karl rove on whether mt romney is surging in the vital swing stes. later, dennis mille on big . omw'cerent te hetoil right back. ...seems like you guys got a little gassed out there. enough already. c'mon guys. next question. hello! what's your favorite color? what's my favorite color? yes. purple. whas yo faoritn?sert whs bme do e inceen ...i love puppies. hash browns or home fries? home fries. do you like my dress? why can't you guys ask good questions like this? [ morgan ] for a chance to interview an nfl player... join vi
i think hillary clinton wanted to do just the opposite. she turned security over to the leftists and there are plenty with the state department. and as a result, you got the othertreme -- paulghou'tibhee. take two -- if do you take two security teams out, you got to explain it. >> and i think i'm explaining it, you can never excuse it. elood of the asa a r e aic i o ll con >>l: othti an explanation. absolutely owe it is and so does president obama and i think this could turn the...
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. >> you are saying hillary clinton knew that night that it was a terror attack? >> i would have to assume. i have a great regard for hillary clinton, but when something this important happens and the state department was directly involved on the ground you would think the state department officials would talk to the people there and say what did you see, what did you hear, how large as the demonstration, was there a demonstration, when did it get out of control and then they would have found out there was no demonstration. >> can we clear you have also whether or not there were requests? pause at that house hearing it seemed pretty clear even the ambassador who was slaughtered that night was in fact make a request for additional security? why is it that vice president joe biden at the vice presidential debate said flat think there were never any requests for more security? >> i think it was one more example of his erratic behavior that night to say whatever he had to say to cover up the issue. there was sworn testimony from the regional security officer saying mo
. >> you are saying hillary clinton knew that night that it was a terror attack? >> i would have to assume. i have a great regard for hillary clinton, but when something this important happens and the state department was directly involved on the ground you would think the state department officials would talk to the people there and say what did you see, what did you hear, how large as the demonstration, was there a demonstration, when did it get out of control and then they would...
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this is sd to have helped bill clinton. bill clinton. in the 1980 republican primary george bush had moment against ronald reagan, until in the debate in new hampshire, there was a moment where reagan looked strong. >> i am paying for this microphone. >> that moment helped change the campaign. >> some o some of them you can . >> read my lips. no new taxes. >> the difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull, lipstick. >> other ones, you got to depend on your candidate seizing a moment you didn't expect to happen. >> there you go again. >> most moments so far this election have been poorly phrased comments. >> if you've got a business, you didn't build that. somebody else made that happen. >> i like being able to fire people tt provide services to me. >> they'll put y'all back in chains. >> the media call those gaffes, but often the media don't know. when ed musky lost the '072 primary because he looked like he teared up defending his wife, everyone said candidates can't career, because that's week, but then in 2008 hillary clinton crie
this is sd to have helped bill clinton. bill clinton. in the 1980 republican primary george bush had moment against ronald reagan, until in the debate in new hampshire, there was a moment where reagan looked strong. >> i am paying for this microphone. >> that moment helped change the campaign. >> some o some of them you can . >> read my lips. no new taxes. >> the difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull, lipstick. >> other ones, you got to depend on...
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hillary clinton said it. ambassador rice said it. this is a white house coverup. the state department says we're not part of the coverup. we'll tell the truth the day before the hearing. they stonewalled for three weeks so we couldn't find out what happened. meanwhile, four americans are dead. >> dana: i want to back up what you're saying with the video. watch. this you decide. >> why hasn't the president given a speech or news conference laying out to the american people for aftermath of what was a terror attacks, four americans killed. instead the republicans have been hitting him, talking about big bird several days on the campaign trail. he doesn't talk about this act of terror when he goes out and talks with voters. wife won't he talk about it? >> i do not agree with your assessment he hasn't been talking about this. it is also the case that there is a campaign going on, and he is out there just like his opponent talking about a variety of issues that are of interest to american people. >> dana: bob, you given great advice to many people over the years. can y
hillary clinton said it. ambassador rice said it. this is a white house coverup. the state department says we're not part of the coverup. we'll tell the truth the day before the hearing. they stonewalled for three weeks so we couldn't find out what happened. meanwhile, four americans are dead. >> dana: i want to back up what you're saying with the video. watch. this you decide. >> why hasn't the president given a speech or news conference laying out to the american people for...
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susan rice and national director of intelligence and hillary clinton. debate was probably a draw. can't have a draw. needs a rebounding sin win, because if he doesn't and it's a draw. romney looks qualified to be president and obama loses. what do you want to hear? momentum politics. last team of the ball will win the game. important for romney to keep the ball. it's town hall, romney is going to do well in town hall format., expectations are low.s don't fumble. is not hard to do not fumble. does well. questions come from people. say that this works. will be a luxury for romney. doesn't deal well and want to engage with voters. think obama does. obama has low expectations because he lost the first debate. repeat the fact he will say something funny when he starts the debate. is what romney needs to win. the way, who wins and loses the debate on scorecard meaning nothing about the outcome. not true. not? at the first debate. don't think he should open with a joke. laughing and making jokes, not good strategy. the political signs probably wrong. point was here, that if romney -- thi
susan rice and national director of intelligence and hillary clinton. debate was probably a draw. can't have a draw. needs a rebounding sin win, because if he doesn't and it's a draw. romney looks qualified to be president and obama loses. what do you want to hear? momentum politics. last team of the ball will win the game. important for romney to keep the ball. it's town hall, romney is going to do well in town hall format., expectations are low.s don't fumble. is not hard to do not fumble....
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i think hillary clinton wanted to do just the opposite. she turned security over to the leftists and there are plenty with the state department. and as a result, you got the other extreme -- >> bill: maybe that's the case. but in the wild west of libya, particularly benghazi, you don't take two -- if do you take two security teams out, you got to explain it. >> and i think i'm explaining it, you can never excuse it. the blood of the ambassador and other three americans is on hillary clinton -- >> bill: she owes the nation an explanation. absolutely owe it is and so does president obama and i think this could turn the election. got to run. thanks very much. karl rove on whether mitt romney is surging in the vital swing states. later, dennis miller on big bird. and tomorrow's vice presidential debate. debate. "the factor" w hahahaha! hooohooo, hahaha! this is awesome! folks who save hundreds of dollars switching to geico sure are happy. i'd say happier than a slinky on an escalator. get happy. get geico. melons!!! oh yeah!! well that was unc
i think hillary clinton wanted to do just the opposite. she turned security over to the leftists and there are plenty with the state department. and as a result, you got the other extreme -- >> bill: maybe that's the case. but in the wild west of libya, particularly benghazi, you don't take two -- if do you take two security teams out, you got to explain it. >> and i think i'm explaining it, you can never excuse it. the blood of the ambassador and other three americans is on hillary...
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i think we need to see secretary clinton under oath. >> sean: how about the est? ca? wou t t al ts l the president even when he went to the u.n. kept going back to the stupid movie trailer nobody believed had any part of this. >> again and again and again, you saw both this coverup and i thinkt's important that they teyi breer offials t t tos st . esi, as saying it was a video, has for the most part been silent on t. have you a coverup of air terrorist attack because it doesn't fit with theirhole notion that somehow al qaeda is on the rope, which the president ntins to. ls kea guheef dtm isaep sg qaeda is ascendant throughout the middle-east. you have also got this question of why they din't have enough security. >> sean: they asked for security and they were denied. thwet lncts rodi uos, h hy t request should have been granted. but the lying and the coverup and the stonewalling is the big issue. let's look a montage of the white house's evoing sry. viceird at american embassies over an all of internet video. >> this is under investigation. the unrest around the regio
i think we need to see secretary clinton under oath. >> sean: how about the est? ca? wou t t al ts l the president even when he went to the u.n. kept going back to the stupid movie trailer nobody believed had any part of this. >> again and again and again, you saw both this coverup and i thinkt's important that they teyi breer offials t t tos st . esi, as saying it was a video, has for the most part been silent on t. have you a coverup of air terrorist attack because it doesn't fit...
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chelsea clinton, the daughter of former president clinton and secretary of state hillary clinton. >> you don't have to be bill clinton and have a platform like this or bill gates and have, you know, almost infinite resources to muster towards something. but that through the methodology and ethos of making a commitment and defining a specific objective and specific metric to one self and one partners to reaching that objective, that people will be truly invigorated to apply that thinking and that approach toward whatever it is that they really care about locally or globally. >> rose: joseph stiglitz and chelsea clinton when we continue. funding for charlie rose was provided by the followingal additional funding provided by these funders: and by bloomberg captioning sponsored by rose communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. >> rose: the debate over the widening economic divide there this country has intensified it helped spark the occupy wall street movement one year ago and has also been a key issue the presidential campaign as the economy continues to f
chelsea clinton, the daughter of former president clinton and secretary of state hillary clinton. >> you don't have to be bill clinton and have a platform like this or bill gates and have, you know, almost infinite resources to muster towards something. but that through the methodology and ethos of making a commitment and defining a specific objective and specific metric to one self and one partners to reaching that objective, that people will be truly invigorated to apply that thinking...
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secretary clinton has appointed a board, accountability board, five members, looking into this. the fbi is looking into it. and, you know, it's one thing to make allegations that are backed by facts. another thing to make allegations and then search for the facts. and we've heard a lot of allegations flying around. and erin, just today in depositions, we've had -- we've heard things that are contradictory to some of the allegations that have already been made by chairman issa, and congressman chaffetz. and so i wanted to see a thorough investigation. the key thing is to make sure that our people are safe, and that has to be number one. >> all right. well, i think we can all agree with that. and we'll be talking to you again soon, sir. obviously, we have the crucial hearings tomorrow. >>> next, for the first time since the "deepwater horizon" disaster, a major exploratory drilling is going on off the coast of alaska. we're on that rig in the middle of nowhere with an exclusive report. >>> and the frightening story not going away of new deaths from the meningitis outbreak. (train
secretary clinton has appointed a board, accountability board, five members, looking into this. the fbi is looking into it. and, you know, it's one thing to make allegations that are backed by facts. another thing to make allegations and then search for the facts. and we've heard a lot of allegations flying around. and erin, just today in depositions, we've had -- we've heard things that are contradictory to some of the allegations that have already been made by chairman issa, and congressman...
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clinton? why are you? you got to step up tomorrow. >> there may be somebody else, too, and he's call the president of the united states. >> bill: let's stair step it. the buck stops him. but let's stair step it. i think the senate and congress should demand the secretary of state appear before committees, whatever committee you want, and explain what the hell is going on here! >> the director of national intelligence, whom issued a statement not long ago, of what my view attempted cover-up, said they had information that it was a spontaneous demonstration. what information could you possibly have when you hear of an attack with mortars and with rocket propelled grenades -- with an affiliated al-qaeda outfit that carries out a very fisted operation? that's not what you really look at as a spontaneous demonstration. >> bill: it's disturbing. but of two start with the secretary of state and she owes the country and the families an explanation and we're going to demand it. >> right. >> bill: syria and turkey s
clinton? why are you? you got to step up tomorrow. >> there may be somebody else, too, and he's call the president of the united states. >> bill: let's stair step it. the buck stops him. but let's stair step it. i think the senate and congress should demand the secretary of state appear before committees, whatever committee you want, and explain what the hell is going on here! >> the director of national intelligence, whom issued a statement not long ago, of what my view...
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in terms of viewership tied with was in 1992 when clinton ran against bush. the so many people tuned in is that they know they're unemployed. and there is -- just wanting to see if they're comfortable with the challenger and there is a reason he's going to keep doing well is because you never get to see him. the media tells us that there are snippets and in other words they're trying to say let's see what he says. >> there is four weeks of the campaign we agree but pew battle ground and rasmussen. this is ohio and there is a two-point race in pennsylvania. and there is a one-point race in wisconsin this is putting obama in a position to defend, defend. and there is i'm telling you they're way behind the curve. but those polls, battle ground polls most of us conducted before the debate. and i thought numbers were screwy before. soy just write them off as screwy. debates not about numbers this move is many numbers as anything i've seen there is internal structure of the race that made it accessible. >> independents there is an eight point advantage for obama in
in terms of viewership tied with was in 1992 when clinton ran against bush. the so many people tuned in is that they know they're unemployed. and there is -- just wanting to see if they're comfortable with the challenger and there is a reason he's going to keep doing well is because you never get to see him. the media tells us that there are snippets and in other words they're trying to say let's see what he says. >> there is four weeks of the campaign we agree but pew battle ground and...